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If I say that the weather is nice today, on June 26th, does this statement get less and less tenable as the weather slowly gets worse and worse, eventually making my statement completely false by January?

Stephen Harper didn't say that anything Israel does is necessarily "measured". Lets try to show at least some thinly-veiled objectivity, shall we?

Don't forget billions in weapons sales. Shrub is a complete Bush lapdog. He's also ignorant of the reality of the world around him. Most Neo-Can-Cons had no idea that Canadians actually vacation in Lebanon... What a bunch of tight-assed jack-offs. They'll be out before they know it...

""results in massive civilian casualties::

massive,... compared to:
Iraqi Death Toll Rises Above 100 Per Day, U.N. Says

civillian,... how can you tell if they are civillian or Hezbolla?

UN humanitarian chief accused Hezbollah of "cowardly blending" among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/46DACF37-AD07-4D14-A4EA-9F9B1909DE5D.htm

OB: the moment I begin pretending to claim objectivity is the moment I begin absolutely lying.

Wilson: There is no question in my mind that Hezbollah is "cowardly" using civilians as shields - that is what terrorists do. And, if you read all of my post, it is the principle reason that I cite for needing a non-military solution.

If I may:
oliphantb: Harper referred to Israel's actions as a 'measured response' on or prior to July 16.
Regardless of preceived or assumed presence or absence of objectivity, let's at least attempt accuracy.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2006/july/24/mideast_harper/&c=1

Hezbollah, apparently, like Hamas in Palestine are part of the social network. Members help provide citizens services such as schools and hospitals, if I have my facts right. So they are not just 'terrorists' lurking in with civilians. So even if all the males left their homes and gathered somewhere else to fight, their homes would still be bombed, cos it's the area of the city they live in. Kind of like flattening the North-end of Halifax to get rid of..?.drug-dealers..Noticed some networks calling them 'guerilla fighters' instead...wondering what that turn of phrase means.
Shame on Mr. Harper for blaming the U.N. victims for their own fate! He's starting to get tangled in his own justifications..or concsience maybe?

Flash,

Where in my post did I say the date of Harper's pronouncement? The only date I quoted in my comment was July 26th, as the date it was written. This number was accurate. Thanks for your input though.

And my criticism still stands that by claiming that Harper's "measured response" comment applies to all of Israels actions, even after the date of the statement, displays a crippling bias and dishonesty, and taints any sort of reasonable analysis.

OB,
Sorry for not substantively responding this morning - I was in a hurry, missed my bus and hadn't had coffee yet. And blogger has been hit and miss all day, not sure why.

My problem is really that Harper made the statement after over 100 civilians had already been killed, and the airport and other transportation facilities had been already bombed and/or destroyed. It was not a "measured" response then, and it's gettin' less measured by the day.

Kevvyd,

That's a reasonable response, I misinterpreted your words. I have been reading all day how "Harper thinks bombing the UN is measured", "Harper thinks 400 dead civilians is measured" etc. etc. etc. when he didn't say any such thing. You just kinda get sick of hearing people who are so full of shit, you know. Anyways, I enjoy your blog although I substantively disagree with much of what you say. Keep it up.

Thanks, Oliphant. That is the best kind of compliment I can think of in a forum like this.

Oliphant,
Point taken. I intended for my comment to make clear that Harper said the initial response was measured - I'm willing to bet that he doesn't think that Israel's actions since then come anywhere close. Unfortunately, I didn't do a very good job, so apologies are offered for the snarkiness. I misinterpreted what you said, and leapt before thinking.
Whatever you do, keep reading - you're a rare animal when you can disagree calmly and rationally.

Oliphant,
I agree that Harper, that most people are having problems with Israel's actions since. I have not heard him nuance, alter, or clarify his position much since the outset aside for a few "regret civilian casualties" comments.